See in certain occult sciences there are certain things that one can do. Recently when we were trekking in Nepal, we came across a valley like this, where some Nepali tribes are doing occult like this with animals. And these are very powerful processes but, these things were meaningful, or useful before modern technology came because you could do certain things.
There is a whole tradition of shamanism where it is uh.. Even today there’s any amount of talk about how a Native American Shaman becomes an eagle, becomes a fly, becomes a wolf, transforms himself into some other form and gets there and all this. So these are not just stories, it is very much a possibility that, one can transform his form if he wishes to.
So, about people taking on the forms that they wish according to the convenience, is not a new thing, or it’s not an unheard of thing. Almost in every part of the world it is there. Particularly it is being publicised in a big way about the North American and South American Shamans these days. About Shamans, becoming eagle, and becoming wolf. These two forms are very common for them.
That was not unheard of here, but it was looked down upon in this culture. There it is being looked up to. Because this is not spirituality this is a occult. Here our occult scientists – I call them scientists, because they are that kind. They don’t bother to convert themselves into a bird or an animal, because, the risk. Because, when you take on the form of something else this body has to be preserved. And it can always be misused. So, there have been incidents where somebody left his body here in some safety and left, say became an eagle and flew for some time, but when the eagle came back the body is gone. Now what does the eagle do? An eagle comes and sits here and says I am a yogi – pathetic state isn’t it?
Here the occult scientists evolved other kinds of methods. That is, they themselves do not take on other forms. They pick other forms and make the forms work in a certain way. They will take a certain animal. Usually one thing that is heavily used is a chicken. So, release the chicken’s life and use that life form to do certain things for you, rather than you taking on the chicken’s body you make the chicken do things controlled by… Remote control chicken, all right. A remote controlled chicken is better than you becoming a chicken, isn’t it?